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Hose him down next time he comes.


I'm more of a creative application of wasp nest that just happens to be right where he turns around kind of guy.

In my head anyway. Apparently I'm more of a "well you can't look at any other part of my house and call me fastidious, so whatever my front yard has permanent trash" kind of guy.


Yes, the right move is definitely to assault a person who's doing the job he was hired to do.


He's already been asked to stop. If he doesn't wanna get hosed he could simply quit as requested. A bit of water isn't gonna kill him.


It's still a crime. Getting unwanted newspapers is not something worth committing a crime over. Let alone provoking someone identified already as being violent.


Serious question: is it really a crime to throw water on somebody in the US?


I'd almost bet money that it's assault if the target decides it is.

Gently putting your hand on someone's shoulder is assault if it's unwanted. Water is less pleasant.

Here's some people on a random website claiming to be lawyers, but also saying the right words: that they can't give specific legal advice and that the OP should not do that and/or get a lawyer. https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/can-i-be-charged-or-arres...


https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/sf-man-sprayed-unhous...

There's an article from San Francisco about a man being charged after hosing down a homeless woman. Ultimately the charges were dropped, but the answer to your question is yes with caveats.


It may be simple battery (the usual standard is “harmful or offensive touching”, without a legal excuse, including by causing any object to do that.


Just following orders, eh?


Are you seriously comparing someone delivering newspapers to being a part of the Wehrmacht during the Nazi regime?


It starts small. It always starts small. Suggest reading some Arendt.

Besides, littering isn't necessarily small potatoes around here. There are signs at the roadside that warn of potential fines exceeding $6000.


Is he littering on the public roadway where those fines apply? Because if he is, you probably don’t have any defensible private interest at all.

If he isn’t, the sign is irrelevant.


Hard to say, that'd be something to ask a local attorney. Which you can bet I'd do, if people were illegally dumping trash on my property.


No, I'm saying that dumping a ton of rubbish outside someone's house is not something that a well adjusted person does regardless of whether someone tells them to do it.

But if you must - it's even less of a defense now, because in WW2 Germany there was a significant amount of social pressure to fall in line. In the modern day no-one cares if you just refuse, or get a different job.


If someone paid me to punch you in the face, is that okay because I'm just doing my job?


No.

But also, it's a terrible analogy because a punch to the face is potentially lethal force but delivering a newspaper isn't. Which, obviously, matters.

Spraying someone with a hose in this situation is battery. Unless the newspaper is being launched at your person with a potato gun, you're going to have a hard time coming up with a defense against that battery charge.

Unlikely, but not worth it. Also, MUCH more importantly, wrong target. Don't go after the laborer. Go after the capitalist paying him to harass you. Go after the owner's wallet and time, not the delivery guy's clothing.


"it puts the paper in the bin or else it gets the hose again"




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