> Meanwhile the "weapons for a civilized time" such as Lisp or Haskell haven't really gotten a major hold in either a Fortune 1000 company or the software giants on the West Coast.
Last I checked, the list of publicly acknowledged production Haskell uses included several significant ones in Fortune 1000 firms, and various Lisps have seen production use at major firms, both inside and outside the software industry.
Sure, Haskell and Lisp (and APL and any other language you care to mention) is used somewhere, in some Fortune 1000 company, but that's a far cry from having gotten a major hold. Just because a group of futures traders in one HSBC office use Haskell to price a certain type of future you cannot really say the Haskell has a major hold at HSBC.
Last I checked, the list of publicly acknowledged production Haskell uses included several significant ones in Fortune 1000 firms, and various Lisps have seen production use at major firms, both inside and outside the software industry.